Akira's Wall Attack

Hi all,
I've been playing Akira for quite a long time now but I still have some unanswered questions :
1-I only noticed recently by watching the Command List that Akira had a Wall Attack (+++). How do you perform it ?
2-I can perform almost all the moves and combos with my pad but there is still one I can't do : ++,, ++, +. I tried on Lei Fei in Free Training and the last attack never hits (opponent almost hit the ground. So I use ++ instead)... Is there a timing or anything ? I perform the first 3 moves as fast as possible... Do I need to delay ?
-About that combo again, do that make any difference if I used + instead of simply ? By the way, what are the differences between them except the fact that the second one makes you step forward a bit ?
-To finish with, I've watched the combo vid on TBZone. Can anyone explain why ShinZ does more damage (for instance, the Shoulder Ram ++ does 45 instead of 30...) ? The damage meter displays a max combo of 148 ! Any idea of which combo it is (my best is 135) ?
!!VF the best serie ever!!

 

m-SgPm (wall) -> QCB+P (wall) -> yoho (wall) -> DBC. I've done 146 on MC. Extremely easy, and deadly.

 

^^^ NOT a combo, the DBC can be aviod by tech roll.

 

^^ I just tested on my PS2, in training mode set tech roll on and do it on CPU the DBC won't hit. so I think it can be tech rolled

 

Mess around with your proximity to the dummy and your dummy's proximity to the wall before the sgpm and see if you can't get the yoho to produce another good wall hit that you can DBC before the TR.

This combo is given in ReCharredSigh's Akira FAQ & therein it states that the combo is popular amongst Hong Kong players & is TR'able, but that FAQ was written for Ver. B (edited for Ver. C though, if I remember correctly). Nonetheless, it seems this particular combo has been discussed & tested before & when Myke says it's been a combo since Ver. C, you can more or less count on this proceeding from some of that testing & discussion.

 

^^^ I set CPU to tech roll everytime and tried at least 15 times, I can't even get the DBC hit for once.


BTW the 148 damage combo? I didn't see that in both ShinZ's combo video maybe there is a 3rd one? The only 148 combo I know is SgPm(wall hit), SPoD(wall hit), DBC.

 

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but 148 seems close enough to 146 for the difference to be accounted for in the proximity of the sgpm. I think the moral of this story is don't let Akira sgpm you into a wall...a thumbless chimp with a busted pad can sgpm (wall hit) QCB+P, DJK (wall hit) d/f+P for almost half your bar.

Oh, and my bad...The aforementioned Akira FAQ by ReCharredSigh states essentially what Myke just did...that the combo isn't TR'able but that the opponent can punish akira while he recovers from the DBC...sorry.

 

"The Yoho produces a wall hit. If it doesn't, then you're not doing it right."


I know that, sorry it was my bad, I didn't test it right, now I just tested it for 200 times(not joking I did that combio at least 200 times). The Yoho DOES produce a wall hit, but you can still TR, but in most case the DBC will still hits, however there are some case, if the angle bewteen you and wall is right(like 40 degree or so) and if you TR to the right dirction, you CAN aviod the DBC.

 

^^^ Thanks, I got it.
BTW I think if you replace Yoho with b,f+P if will work even if hit the wall on an angle., not sure though, need to test more.

 

Thanks Myke,

What does the Wall Attack do by the way ? Maybe I did it without even knowing it /versus/images/icons/tongue.gif
I'll work on using in my combos. But still, does do something. Akira stands still and punches. Any use of it in a combo ?
I love your guys enthusiasm ! VF rules !

 

Ok did it... can't figure out why I couldn't do it earlier /versus/images/icons/blush.gif)