Unnecessary move presence in VF?!

I always thought, that VF have not UNNECESSARY moves unlike many other fightings (Tekken, Soul Calibur)-i.e. all moves from all characters are needed in some conditions/situations, there are never no unnecessary or clone-moves(synonim moves) ...
...But one day when i learned Brad i found that he has that type of move: it is /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif!

Explanation:
He has 2 already similar moves: /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gifand /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif-they have almost the same frame data (+1 vs 0 on CH, 16 vs 13 dmg- never mind); same range; same stnce status (not crushing high or low).
...BUT, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif have string continue by /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif (that is safe on guard and half-spin), so /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif unlike /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is much more good move, because more safe: even on guard (-14) you can continue by /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif(string) and crush opponent's punish. So there is no need in /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif...

What do you think about this VF-phenomen?

 

You seen Kage's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif?

 

I think its good for Okizeme situations especially against delayed rising attacks.

 

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is useful against people who don't like to tech roll /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif yeah yeah I know you can use /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif the same, but I just had to show him that you can find a use for everything.

 

Please tell me what /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gifadvantage is over /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif?
i don't see this /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif
But i see /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif advantage-2nd /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gifcontinue, that, while all other properties are the same, give /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif much more safe usage, especially at round's end, when guarding your kick (-14) by enemy is fatal.

 

Be patient SUGATA, they have already changed Brad's low kicks in VF5R /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

 

May be. Agree, possibly this (less visually noticeable to the reactionis like Goh's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif) is the only advantage of /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif over /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

kage's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif is useless against smart players, but u can use it sparringly for players like lei fei who goes into these stances they can't get out of in time to block. or someone like pai or eileen who does alot of quick strings from all over the place.

 

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/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif
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Everything else is unnecessary.

 

Hail to the god that you are realy WRONG...otherwise i would have thrown VF on the scrap-heap /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

Sometimes, I honestly think that there are moves put into VF just to "punish" a player for not being precise with their input.

The brad /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif example is one. Another is Akira's "Windmill" /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. I swear the windmill is only in the game so you can't buffer in the /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif as fast as you could in Evo.

'Course, I might just be pessimistic /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

 

You forgot DM /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif.

 

DMPK renders everything else obsolete.

 

jacky's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif are the same move, but the former doesn't seem to want to come out when i do it in combos, so i use the latter.

 

That's good - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif executes 1 frame faster (14 vs. 15).

 

does this mean we can put /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif on the list of moves that are arbitrarily deemed useless?

 

Couldn't commands as such work as delays on eteg?

 

no