Vanessa sabakis and crushes

Hi

I noticed that the wiki didn't list Vanessa's sabaki or crush frames that comprehensively so I labbed them out.
I tried to be as rigorous as I could, but I would appreciate if someone double checks these.

Frames are one indexed here, meaning frame 1 is the first frame.

Short version of results, I'm posting the actual test setups below.

• Defensive frame 1 sabaki and high crush, at least till active frames
  
• Defensive frame 1 to 16 sabaki
• Defensive frame 5 to 20 sabaki
• Intercept frame 1 to 20 sabaki, gives advantage based on when it in the sabaki it's hit. Against punches it's +8 to +27 and against kicks it's +26 to +45
• Offensive frame 4 low crush, at least till active frames
  
• Offensive frame 13 low crush, at least till active frames
  
• Offensive frame 28 low crush (I'm gonna test later if this lasts till active frames too)
  
• (as a bonus as far as I can tell jumps low crush on frame 5)

 

In these test cases I do the move being tested with immediate timing from the given frame advantage against the opponents move which is also done with immediate timing.

Defensive Testing

I got the -19 situation (for Vanessa) with Lion
Because of the range the Lion could maybe sometimes miss it's first active frame, but I never managed to make it lose, so I'm fairly confident that it's frame 1 sabaki.

Code:

┌───────────┬────────────────┬─────────────────┬────────┐
│ Advantage │   Opp. move    │ Collision frame │ Works? │
├───────────┼────────────────┼─────────────────┼────────┤
│ -19       │ i20(Lion 2P+K) │ frame 1         │ Yes    │
│ +5        │ i12(2P)        │ frame 17        │ Yes    │
└───────────┴────────────────┴─────────────────┴────────┘

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Defensive Testing

I got the -13 situation with Pai on counterhit

Code:

┌───────────┬───────────────┬─────────────────┬────────┐
│ Advantage │   Opp. move   │ Collision frame │ Works? │
├───────────┼───────────────┼─────────────────┼────────┤
│ -13       │ i14 (Pai 6P)  │ frame 1         │ Yes    │
│ +2        │ i14 (Pai 6P)  │ frame 16        │ Yes    │
│ +2        │ i15 (Shun 6p) │ frame 17        │ No     │
└───────────┴───────────────┴─────────────────┴────────┘

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Defensive Testing

Code:

┌───────────┬─────────────────────┬─────────────────┬────────┐
│ Advantage │      Opp. move      │ Collision frame │ Works? │
├───────────┼─────────────────────┼─────────────────┼────────┤
│ -13       │ i17 (Pai 3K+G)      │ frame 4         │ No     │
│ -13       │ i18 (Pai 46K)       │ frame 5         │ Yes    │
│ +5        │ i15 (Vanessa DS 6K) │ frame 20        │ Yes    │
│ +5        │ i16 (Vanessa DS 3K) │ frame 21        │ No     │
└───────────┴─────────────────────┴─────────────────┴────────┘

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Intercept

The minmum advantage against kicks is calculated based on the difference between the max and min advantage against punches. Also I assume the punch and kick sabaki cover the same frames.

Against punches

Code:

┌───────────┬───────────────────────┬─────────────────┬──────────────────────────┐
│ Advantage │       Opp. move       │ Collision frame │ Post situation advantage │
├───────────┼───────────────────────┼─────────────────┼──────────────────────────┤
│ -11       │ i12 (2P)              │ frame 1         │ +8                       │
│ -11       │ i17 (Lion 1P)         │ frame 6         │ +13                      │
│ -11       │ i22 (Vanessa OS 1P)   │ frame 11        │ +18                      │
│ -11       │ i22 (Vanessa DS 1P+K) │ frame 11        │ +18                      │
│ +3        │ i12 (2P)              │ frame 15        │ +22                      │
│ +5        │ i12 (2P)              │ frame 17        │ +24                      │
│ +7        │ i12 (2P)              │ frame 19        │ +26                      │
│ +3        │ i17 (Lion 1P)         │ frame 20        │ +27                      │
└───────────┴───────────────────────┴─────────────────┴──────────────────────────┘

Against kicks

Code:

┌───────────┬───────────────────────┬─────────────────┬──────────────────────────┐
│ Advantage │       Opp. move       │ Collision frame │ Post situation advantage │
├───────────┼───────────────────────┼─────────────────┼──────────────────────────┤
│ -11       │ i16 (Vanessa DS 1K)   │ frame 5         │ +30                      │
│ -11       │ i17 (Vanessa DS 2K)   │ frame 6         │ +31                      │
│ -11       │ i17 (Vanessa OS 2K)   │ frame 6         │ +31                      │
│ -11       │ i21 (Vanessa OS 2K+G) │ frame 10        │ +35                      │
│ -11       │ i23 (Vanessa DS 1K+G) │ frame 12        │ +37                      │
│ +3        │ i17 (Vanessa DS 2K)   │ frame 20        │ +45                      │
│ +3        │ i18 (Goh 1K)          │ frame 21        │ Loses                    │
└───────────┴───────────────────────┴─────────────────┴──────────────────────────┘

 

And now I'm noticing I didn't write down the test cases for offensive stance low crushes in my notes. But they were tested the same way, like beats 2P after doing (which is now +1 in Revo). I'll put them together at some point and post them here. Also the wiki suggest Offensive might high crush, but I didn't find where they are supposed to be, but the input on it's own would dodge highs.