VF5REVO El Blaze Combos

Stagger > RD K, P, KKK now works on Taka. 62 damage. The jab need to be delayed.

Stagger > RD K, 2P, P, 4KPP seems like it might be the best you can get on another Blaze now. 65 damage.

 

2P+G, OM, 2KPP works on Taka for 50
OM towards Taka's front which after the throw is also Blazes front.

 

Blaze combos have changed a little because of the new weight system. It seems like a decent amount of the old FS/US stuff works, but some other stuff changed and it feels weird. It's a new game so let's just adapt. I'll just post everything I found from labbing and watching different streams etc. so we can have sort of a combo guide here in the thread. Just take whatever you need and add to the combo table. There's definitely more than this, but let's not get too far into the obscure stuff. This is good enough for now.



combos:

In these combos if you launch them starting from closed stance, they're far away after the so always hold forward a little bit after you bounce them and the 3 kicks at the end will connect.

everyone except taka/wolf/jeff:
► ► hold forward a half second then

counterhit on everyone except taka/wolf/jeff:
► ► ► hold forward a half second then
this also works on non-counterhit hit vs lightweights (Va/Sa/Bl/Pa/Li/Ei/Ao/Sh) as long as they aren't crouching.

wolf/jeff: ►

counterhit vs wolf/jeff: ► ► hold forward a half second then

counterhit vs lightweights (Va/Sa/Bl/Pa/Li/Ei/Ao/Sh):
► ► ► hold forward a half second then
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combos:

Everyone except Jeff/Wolf/Taka:
(from backturned) ► cancel ►

Jeffry/Wolf: (from backturned) ►

Taka: (from backturned) ► cancel ►
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combos:

everyone except wolf/jeff/taka: ► cancel ►

Ja/Jn/Br/Va/Sa/Ei/Pa/Le/La:
► cancel ►
Note: this combo works against Aoi/Akira if you hit the starting from closed stance. If you don't want to check stance, just do the "everyone" combo I listed first


Wolf/Jeff: ►

taka: ►
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combos:

taka: ►
everyone except taka: cancel ►

shun: ► ► ►

wolf/jeff: pkg cancel > 66p+k > 662p > kkk(71dmg)
(open stance only)

closed stance(ei/bl/ao/sa/pa/li/va/la/br):
► ►

open stance against Lau/Lei/Brad:
cancel ► cancel ►
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rocket discharge combos:

everyone except taka:
► cancel ► (slightly delay the second hit)
Note: the last part of this combo will whiff against characters like shun/pai/blaze unless you delay the first kick and input the last 2 full speed. I just do it against all characters (except) taka like this.

wolf: ► ►

brad/jean: neutral ► ►

Pai/Aoi/Lion/Eileen: ► ►

Vanessa/Sarah/Lion: ► ► ►
Against lion hold forward a half second before doing the 3 kicks at the end. Basically in rocket discharge combos you should just always do this.
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rocket discharge combos:

everyone except wolf/jeff/taka: cancel ►

Wolf/Jeff: ►

Taka: ►
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last hit of combos:

everyone except taka: dash ► ►

taka: forward dash ► cancel ►
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backturned combos:

everyone except wolf/jeff/taka: ► cancel ►

Jeff/Wolf:
► always hold forward a half second before you do the in this so you don't have to worry about missing it.

taka: cancel ►
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backturned combos:

Everyone except taka: cancel ►

taka: ►
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combos:

everyone except jeff/wolf/taka:

Jeff/Wolf: ►

taka only launches him on counter hit or whiff punish:
►
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descending jump combos:

everyone except wolf/jeff/taka: dash ► ► cancel ►

wolf/jeff: dash ► ► (only works on wolf starting from closed stance)

against wolf in open stance: dash ► ► ►

taka:
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descending combos:


everyone except taka: ►

taka: or
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low throw combos:

Ak/ka/go/Le: ► ► ► ► (73dmg)

Jean/Jacky: ► ► (79dmg)

lau/brad: ► cancel ► ► (77dmg)

va/sa/bl/ei/ao: ► ► ► (69dmg)

shun: ► ► (65dmg)

lion: ► ► ► (78dmg)

pai/lion: ► ► (69dmg)

jeff/wolf: ► ► ► (67dmg)

taka: ► ► (62dmg)
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throw combos:

taka: (43dmg)

everyone else: cancel ► (61dmg)
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throw combos(opponent back to wall):

sh/ao/ei/bl: hold forward ► ► ► (97dmg)
ak/ja/jn/br/la/ka/le/go/sa/pa/li/va/: ► (95dmg)
everyone except taka: ►
taka:
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Been running through my character notes and here's the takeaway from what I see vs Taka

6K+G
Both PK, 6PK and 2P+K, P, 6P+K still work for same damage.
First one has become easier since no need to hold 6_ anymore but the latter still offers better carry while requiring a couple of tricks to land it reliably.

8P+K and RD 9K+GP
P, 6PK
Before the exe was P, 1fk 6PK but now you need to do about a half dash of delay on P into 6PK with no 1fk

2P+G, OM 2KPP new combo mentioned above

46P+K CH now allows for 9P+KK high bound for combos posted before

stagger > RD K
P, KKK works but the window to hit it is very small
in FS 6P+KP, 3K+G was hard but now it's piss easy. Does 6 damage less than the above combo though. Microdash into 6P+K for timing.

Everything else works the same as before.
Having said that I see the 3P+G combo on Taka is way below optimal on the FS combo list
Here's the good one
3P+G, 6K+G, 2P+K, dash P, 6PK
Unlike a front hit of 6K+G you do not want to 1fk your 6P

EDIT: Tested 2_6P+K, 3PP, PPK from DRE's message above. More damage than 2P+K, P, 6PK and easier to perform due to not needing any delays but it does leave you less options for oki. Very nice find though, gonna be a useful add to the arsenal.

 

A couple of notes on the combos currently on the list

If you delay the jab a little longer, getting the jab in
2_6P+K, 2P+K, P, KKK
on Wolf and Jeffry is no longer stance specific. You can also add the jab vs them after CH 4P+K, BT 2P

These 2 combos
CH 46P+K, 9P+KK, [RD K], 6PK
CH 4P+K, BT 8K, [P+KP], 6PK
The part in brackets can be replaced with 4KP on both and it does more damage. Is there some oki timing reason not to do that?

Also, you don't need to mark advancing jabs anymore They're all advancing now.

 

I believe I've found what the 4K float change did.

Before I had a different combo on almost all characters listed as max damage after 3P+G in my own spreadsheet but now it looks like you can land either 6K+G or 8P+K into 4KPP, 6PK on a lot of non-heavies.
I haven't gone through them all but I just started doing it against random dummies while waiting in ranked queue and it works on a lot of people it definitely did not work on before.

Sometimes the 6P needs to be 1fk. Against Vanessa the combo is 3P+G, 6K+G, 1fk 4KPP, 1fk 6PK but I think that was also the case in FS.

 

2PG combos for VFes VER2.01 by miyavi_ngos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dsq3aPZLjg

 

3PG combos for VFes VER2.01 by miyavi_ngos

https://youtu.be/Uf08dE_R_T0

 

This vid missed that you can also land the 79 damage 3P+G, 6K+G, 4KPP, 6PK on Vanessa, Sarah and Blaze by doing 1fk on both 4K and 6P.