VF5US/R.E.V.O. Version 2.0 Jacky Changes

() still can not be blocked in closed stance.

 

, on counter hit no longer connects. Recovery time shorted by 1 frame.

floats opponents a little higher for combo stability especially against light weights.

Something I notice also. Throw break animation is faster and has a much better flow to combat. I can’t really explain it but it has a snap to it that feels more natural when you break it. It places the characters at their distances a bit smoother.

 

It's not a bug. It's intended. It's existed since vf4. I don't know why you even posted this. It's a mix up option for Jacky.

 

That's a very long-standing bug then. Definitely gotta email Sega to finally fix it.

 

Please someone explain me the awesomeness of "Restored Step-in Sword" ? Whats the purpose of this move, why did they choose this move ? its another mid kick from slide ??

For the other changes, correct me if im wrong:

Biljee, smash upper >>>>>>heavy nerf, biljee ok, but smash upper nerf makes no sense, kage got the same move.....
somersault>>>>>damage nerf
slant back knuckle>>>>>slight nerf
Beat Knuckle>>>>slight nerf
Throw game nerfed

Groin Kick>>>>>>>buffed
rage of the dragon>>>buffed
some minor damage buffs for random moves

the other buffs are for useless moves, wtf, why buff fake elbow, savate or or good luck landing those moves in real battle

Savate still not low crushing, Jacky is in the air the entire time
double dragon is -15 on block, risk/reward is abysmall, still not low crushing, despite the animation makes no sense

Overall, why bother with Jacky now, counter hit damage got nerfed, Jackys moveset is still highly vulnerable to Punch/Kick reversals, now he got one of the worst throw games too,.
Just block and take the throw, even Lau got better Throws now

 

2_3P still does 93 on mid weights. Dunno about any new combo routes but maybe, losing 4 damage from it isn't that big of a deal, lol. -6 vs -8 isn't that relevant of a nerf either IMO.

Bil Jee got hit a bit hard but it's not like it's doing nothing now.

SS K!G is +4 on block, mid and launches on NH, the old one just... pushes the opponent into a wall and it's also still there if you wanna use it.
EDIT: Oh lol, I just realized that the change list doesn't say the moves full input. That should probably be there... SS K has an Iaigeri style recovery cancel.

Also beat knuckle is still one of the easiest whiff punishers in the game and does good damage. I don't think that change really matters at all when all it seems to affect is the opponent having 2 more frames to struggle the stagger when doing NH P+K alone.

I dunno, maybe it's just me but it sure doesn't seem to me like he's somehow hopeless now. As matter of fact I think the old clear top tier got away relatively unscathed.

You didn't mention it but I'm actively glad that 1P+KP got hit.

EDIT2: Dude... I'm jumping over low rising attacks with 8K+G all the time in practice mode right now. As a matter of fact the latter frames of 9K are jumping over lows.

EDIT3: Duuude, those throw changes are literally damage buffs...
66P+G used to do 50. Now it does 55 guaranteed and 60 if opponent fails tech.
46P+G used to 50 guaranteed, 60 on failed tech. Now it does 55 guaranteed, 60 on failed tech.
46P+G into wall hit, 66K also does more damage now.

 

Here's a real 2_3P nerf that I just tested.
They didn't just make the block stun 2f shorter; they added 2 total frames to the animation meaning that the move is now more punishable when evaded.

 

He is still formidable… but this is modern gaming now. As far as the step in sword cancel.. it’s another tool to bait for counter hits. In VF5:R it was a beauty. Now it’s ok.. but.. on hit.. you not getting much out of it. New avenues for damages are there… But me personally. It’s all bullshit and I hate it. Kinda fee like I’m being punished for knowing how to Iageri.

 

I don't remember what SS K!G did in R. I spent 5 minutes on it with the current version and I'm getting 68 on Goh stance free and 70 from open on NH. I don't think that's a bad reward for a + on block mid. Still get 45 even when missing the G-cancel.

How so? Genuine question, what is different now about any of the use cases of Iaigeri? I'd like to know new combo routes if you have them.

 

1) SS K!G on hit puts the opponent into a sit down position in which you had to stagger recover. A Beat knuckle follow up into a double iageri and somersault was OP on lightweights.


2) if you know Iageri. It’s makes Jacky seem stronger and it extends combos. With that being said people complain he too fast and strong despite you needing to earn your damage. The Bil jee into Launcher still works but only on side turn counter. VF5:FS needed no nerfs imo. It was fine just the way it was. A new character would’ve been nice. Like Kiryu.