Good Games Thread

Discussion in 'Xbox Live' started by westtrade, Oct 31, 2007.

  1. Chibiaya

    Chibiaya Well-Known Member

    Ive noticed that 95% of my losses come from the fact that people read me mashing 2p. Its just so hard sometimes because im always clueless on what to do lol
     
  2. SDS_Overfiend1

    SDS_Overfiend1 Well-Known Member

    Not to me because i had 3 green bars with you. Everybody know that after P+K you crouch regardless becaue he open if he don't follow through.As far as the hop back is concerned its not cheap compare to of the bullshit things Shun can do.

    Luckily i don't spam or use the Beat Knuckle so when it does come i have you beat.
     
  3. Happy_Friend

    Happy_Friend Well-Known Member

    Beat Knuckle kick---> 4 is one of the cheapest moves, offline. Online, it goes to another level of wackness since it can be unduckable.

    Why oh why is the kick special high? It obviously whiffs over my head when I 2p it. I feel like someone somewhere is kicking a voodoo doll of me when I get hit with that.

    And yeah, on balance shun as char is way worse than JA beat,kick,flee .

    I have actually tried to play Shun, just so I get to understand him so his strings and stuff won't seem so unknowable, but I strangely find him annoying on both ends. Then again I play Lau and Jeff, so I really just wanna poke, float or throw, not wear you down with irritating trickery and an esoteric movelist with bizarro stances.
     
  4. Feck

    Feck Well-Known Member Content Manager Akira

    WAT?!

    "Everyone knows to crouch regardless after p+k", why is this?

    Is p+kp only in my copy of the game?!
     
  5. Dennis0201

    Dennis0201 Well-Known Member

    Haha~
    Many Jacky players rely on this move. When you feel you can't crouch immediately due to lag, just give up the match and don't waste your time~~
     
  6. Happy_Friend

    Happy_Friend Well-Known Member

    Isn't that /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif high?
     
  7. social_ruin

    social_ruin Well-Known Member

    i just wanted to say that i feel like i fall on both sides of the don't adjust debate.

    1st, most of my opponents just don't seem to adjust at all, which can be some easy wins somethimes with lei. But can also get boring. And i definitely try and change up my strategy cause i think my opponent is going to adjust too often, but they don't and i just go back to doing what i was and it keeps working. Also i find a lot of time i will play someone and win 2 out of every 3 matches or better and after the fight they will tell me that i don't adjust. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif i just won almost 70% of our matches...But whatever. And in combination with that, i lose my killer instinct. I'm trying to get it better, but damn, sometimes i feel bad and after 6-7-8 wins straight. Then i come off the autopilot setting that allows me to win those matches and start trying random stuff until i lose. Then i'll pound out 3 or 4 focused wins in a row, go on autopilot, then start just trying to play more and more abstract until i lose again.

    2nd, Then i get in matches where i do need to adjust and focus up. And sometimes it's just hard to turn off all the autopilot switches i've thrown so often. It sucks cause i definitely feel like i would adjust and adapt quicker if it was more necessary on an everyday every match basis. It can be hard to gear up for opponents sometimes. Especially if i don't think they are gonna be challenging/they haven't been really challenging in the past. Which of course is my problem, cuase the better ya get the more players will not pose a challenge.
     
  8. Slide

    Slide Well-Known Member

    Because that's high(wide open), and unsafe too.

    Alot of Jacky's moves, you'll find out the common moves from Jacky, low moves end in highs, lot of mid moves end in highs. The ones that don't, if they end in mid Jacky is sidekick+ punishable. Alot of times he has to stop short and start it back up, or throw you off by constantly following through when you get impatient.

    A good tactic from both Jacky and Sarah since there's many holes in their strings, is to start one up and then backdash out and punish what's coming. Like Jacky could beat knuckle the whiff, and Sarah would serpent the whiff.
     
  9. Feck

    Feck Well-Known Member Content Manager Akira

    I didn't think it was ... until I just looked at the command list /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif
     
  10. social_ruin

    social_ruin Well-Known Member

    oh and to get back on the point of the thread:

    ggs to Mista Tee. Sorry i bailed like that. Ich hatte kein Lust fuer vf5.=i didn't have any joy for vf5. After a dull night of incompetent, spammy ranked opponents and my heart just wasn't in it, which is too bad, cause it felt like maybe u were playing pretty good (hard to for me to say for sure). However, your movement was looking real nice for all of the 3 games we played. I'll try and make sure i really want to play next time before i say that i want to play lol.
     
  11. Happy_Friend

    Happy_Friend Well-Known Member

    Well, Jacky is one of the half dozen chars whose movelist I actually know, plus he's had that move at least since VF 3 (the follow up kicks were taken out in VF4, iirc).
     
  12. SDS_Overfiend1

    SDS_Overfiend1 Well-Known Member

    Yes its High. Even if he does'nt follow up he still punishable because he sits there recovering.

    Thank you slide for explaining things. Jacky can be interupted in a lot of his move and he has no special highs on anything. MAybe if some of you choose to adapt you actually learn something. The beat Knuckle ain't a problem especially if a noob continues to do it abare. Also if lag is a issue on the hop you space yourself from him.
     
  13. Fu_unji_kun

    Fu_unji_kun Well-Known Member

    It's def not you, like I said, I'm talking about this to specific players. I just mentioned how cheap is this move online, and I wanted you guys will think about it. That's it.
     
  14. Slide

    Slide Well-Known Member

    Konjou don't be like me with 1000 moves!
    Get that killer instinct and streamline your repertoire!
     
  15. Happy_Friend

    Happy_Friend Well-Known Member

    He does have a special high - the kick after the beat knuckle.
     
  16. _Denkai_

    _Denkai_ Well-Known Member

    2p is a Jacky killer if you use it every time after 6p hes basically fucked. The 2p will stop everything he does once the initial move to start the string is blocked. Besides Beat K dash back which is punishable (yes even if you block the K use mid kick) he doesn't have anything to prevent the player from interrupting his strings with low punch..See a mid K then low P see a mid P then low punch if Jacky is at close range to you then theirs nothing he can do to stop the 2p besides dodging or blocking he cannot backdash away from it.
     
  17. Dennis0201

    Dennis0201 Well-Known Member

    Actually I like the way Konjou did!!
    He always can make our matches much more vivid!!

    But I also agree that "Konjou style" sometimes is too much further than his opponent, and maybe that is not so good especially on serious tournament.

    Everyone has his own characteristic, and I don't think you need to force yourself to change. However, the hardest part is how you switch it and adapt to every situation you face.
     
  18. Chibiaya

    Chibiaya Well-Known Member

    Good games to konjou today. Man, I actually have to apologize to you. You shouldnt have had to sit through that embarrasing gameplay i displayed vs you today. I really really really tried hard to not disappoint you but damn. The worst part is that i ended up disappointing myself with that. It was great to play you but man, that was painful for even me to watch. Had to be painful for you to play though that. I appreciate you sticking around and playing me for as long as you did though. Thanks
     
  19. Dennis0201

    Dennis0201 Well-Known Member

    Fucking great games to Konjou!!!!

    Man, you reach that!! Does that TE stick make you become a monster? Shit, I'm gonna buy one!!! I could tell your moves were getting more smooth especially on box stepping!!! I'm goona borrow that shit from you at Socal!! Haha~~
    Sorry about the matches became laggy and laggy....fuck!! I hate lag!!!!

    Technically, you are a program machine, I barely found any input mistake you made. Even you did, I believe 80% because of lag.

    As a Akira player, you already reach the top, and I don't think there is another efficient way better than yours. Look at how Akira's capable of in "R"!!! I bet he is 10 times stronger and fun than Ver.C!!!
     
  20. Rodnutz

    Rodnutz Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    XxRodnutzxX
    GG's man, it's funny but I thought you played fine and I didn't find the session boring at all. I think you are being to hard on yourself man. I think the only reason I did so well is because I add a few things to my game and also my throat escape ratio seems to have gone up pretty decently.

    Good mix ups man I think you just being hard on yourself bro... remember you been gone a long time. We will do some more maybe over the weekend.
     

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