How to do Akira's KNEE

akai · Feb 14, 2012

Beligerent_Feck said:

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Just checked in dojo quick and the inputs I mostly get for each successful KNEE are like this.

1 +
1

Sometimes i'll get this.

1 +
2

Maybe i'm misunderstanding the information on display here but those numbers are only stating how long the button is held for right? If that's the case then i'm only "holding" for 1 frame, if I tap K on it's own but in the same way I tap it when i'm doing KNEE then it shows as 1f.

The way I input it I pretty much tap both buttons identically.
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In the first example, the "tapping" you did for the button lasted for 2 frames. In the second example, "tapping" the button lasted for 3 frames. In both examples, the button was simultaneously "tap" together with for just one frame.

jinxhand · Feb 14, 2012

Beligerent_Feck said:

jinxhand said:

Real talk, get Myke or someone with a dope recording setup and make a tut for this, and other j/f moves that people have trouble with...
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There's enough advice in this thread and elsewhere on the forums for people that want to learn the move to get the jist of it. There is too much conflicting advice about this one move though so a nicely done tutorial could help people who struggle with the move.

I've been trying to tell people that you can just tap both buttons for years and everytime it gets straight up debunked, I look at the command list where it clearly says "release within 1 frame" then I check out how I do it in the game and I can't tell if i'm easily confused or straight up mad.

Even though I personally don't understand where holding or holding any of the buttons comes into it, I can appreciate Plagues post as he explained how he inputs it pretty well.
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A hand cam showing the input is all you need... I mean, of course there's a gangload of info about this 1 move on the threads, and other threads as well, but for it to be this huge deal over the course of many years is ridiculous... It reminds me of when people used to cry about how to do a raging demon...

Feck · Feb 14, 2012

akai said:

Beligerent_Feck said:

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Just checked in dojo quick and the inputs I mostly get for each successful KNEE are like this.

1 +
1

Sometimes i'll get this.

1 +
2

Maybe i'm misunderstanding the information on display here but those numbers are only stating how long the button is held for right? If that's the case then i'm only "holding" for 1 frame, if I tap K on it's own but in the same way I tap it when i'm doing KNEE then it shows as 1f.

The way I input it I pretty much tap both buttons identically.
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In the first example, the "tapping" you did for the button lasted for 2 frames. In the second example, "tapping" the button lasted for 3 frames. In both examples, the button was simultaneously "tap" together with for just one frame.
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Thanks for clearing that up akai, I guess I got hung up on the whole holding thing as you clearly demonstrate with the quotation marks

EDIT: Now i'm starting to think the input display in dojo has to display it like this since it only deals with individual frames, even if you were holding for less than a frame and for 1f it would still have to display it like it was shown in my earlier post. Gonna stop thinking about this and get some sleep as it's pretty inconsequential.

akai · Feb 15, 2012

Beligerent_Feck said:

EDIT: Now i'm starting to think the input display in dojo has to display it like this since it only deals with individual frames, even if you were holding for less than a frame and for 1f it would still have to display it like it was shown in my earlier post. Gonna stop thinking about this and get some sleep as it's pretty inconsequential.
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If what you say is correct, then the frame display in dojo is not an accurate measure of frame (time).

Think of a 12 inch ruler with only markings for every inch. If you have two lines drawn - one that is less than an inch (let us say ~3/4 of an inch) and one exactly as an inch. Would you tell someone that the "3/4 inch" is an inch and the the "inch" is 2 inches?

Plague · Feb 15, 2012

Beligerent_Feck said:

Just checked in dojo quick and the inputs I mostly get for each successful KNEE are like this.

1 +
1

Sometimes i'll get this.

1 +
2
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These are also correct...

1 +
3

1 +
8

1 +
342

You must have the 1 +. You must then have at least 1 immediately following (achieved by simply holding )

It is also correct to say "release G within one frame." This doesn't mean there is a unit of measure less than a frame. It means that if you don't release within 1 frame, you're holding it for 2 frames or more and the KNEE will not execute.

.001 frame = 1 frame.
1.001 frame = 2 frames.

There is a video of KNEE linked in the first post of this thread.

I'm going to edit that post so the YouTube vid is displayed instead of just linked.

Manjoume · Feb 22, 2012

I definitely need to keep practicing. I haven't had time lately but the workload is about to lessen. Hadn't really realized how intricate this move was.

I've pulled it off in VF5 on stick after a few tries though I can't recall how consistently I was pulling it off.

The video from the first post is crazy, he's flicking the buttons so quickly!!

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