Kage: Final Tuned

Just want say thanks for the info!!
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f,d,df+P+KPKK: A new string from which can be done after the first hit is guarded or on hit. If you can connect all 4 hits, it will get you a nice chunk of damage.

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I just wanted to add that each part of this canned sequence must be guarded or hit in order to proceed to the next - not just the first P following the dragon punch. /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Yeah, that's right, I wasn't specific enough. Will make the change now.

 

With A2, Kage does not seem to be weaker. If anything, he may have improved on paper.

With A1, I'm sorry, Kage is definitely weaker (or at least, harder to play) than Evo. I was surprised at how hard it was to adjust back from Evo to FT while my Jeffry and Goh transitioned smoothly when I arrived Hong Kong.

I just don't know what AM2 is thinking...A2 is better than A1 in every way that matters. It's gotten to the point that I automatically respect Kage players in Japan who for whatever reason decided to go with A1.

 

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Myke said:

I know this was mentioned before, but I think the A1 upper does indeed float higher now, which is probably it's only redeeming quality.



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I have a sneaking suspicion that things in general float differently in FT. In one video Chibita manages P+K - D,f+P - KK. This is not a combo I have ever seen, or ever done, in EVO. Not too that mention Llan tells me in the mook there is a Jeff combo v Brad that goes: Threat Stance P Catch Throw - b,df+P+K - df,df+P - P - uf+P+G.


just my 2 cents worth.
kbcat

 

I agree with that...I did mention that before. A lot of times my would actually miss because the opponent floated so higher, something that never happened in Evo. That said, I'm not sure the damage potential of A1 with improved float is significantly better (or even the same?) as A2.

I guess I wouldn't really care if I was in Japan and had vf.net, but it definitely annoys me that I don't have the flexibility to change moves when the choice is so obvious. I'm whining now.

Goh's A1 vs A2 is also similar. I can understand the higher damage potential of A1 vs A2, but AM2, at least also make it 15 frames execution...Goh needs a good 15 frame attack.

 

On a completely unrelated note - although it is Kage relevant - I managed to pull off the complete dragon punch combo (++) while interupting b4k4's Lei's low rising attack. It was awesome - a ton of damage and completely makes me want to play Kage more just to get his 'DPoD' in matches. /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Anyway - something to try that looks incredibly cool - big damage and massive style, imo.

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Like, 1/3 to almost 1/2 of my life bar, it seemed (probably closer to 1/3).

Llan: "Wooooo!"
Me: "...wtf... !"

 

I keep picking Normal Mode instead of Challenge Mode while playing Kage JUST to practice that damned DP. My accuracy has not improved much, however.

I don't feel bad though...notice no top tier Kage players bother with it in serious matches?

 

Edit: except Kkrrrazy Kyasao...

 

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I don't feel bad though...notice no top tier Kage players bother with it in serious matches?

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While I don't think it's necessary to have this mastered, should one be able to pull it off with consistency, their Kage becomes exponentially more deadly. That alone makes me want to master the timing. Think about the intimidation factor to your opponent knowing you have that tool for oki and ideally for reverse nitaku situations, etc. Wow. /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Side note - my rate of success for completing the entire sequence is now at 4. Yep, 4 times. That's it. Mind you, Kage is a very casual character for me and I play him maybe 10% of the time. I can get the first three hits around 30% only...it's a whole heck of a lot harder than I thought.

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man fuck this cheap ass bullshit from sega. now kage gets 100 point combo from nothing? If someone just sit there and practice until he get the timing down, kage will be the shit of the shit. Fuck this imbalanced bullshit, even if you are a japanese character you get the five star treatment. and fuck you ass-9!

 

Oh yeah, if the timing can just be a little easier, what Kage has is a SPOD on his hands. That's why I keep persisting on Normal Mode... My rate of success is now 90% for two hits, 40% for three hits, and 5% for four hits. This is against the CPU.

 

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ice-9 said:
and 5% for four hits. This is against the CPU.

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man, you suck!

 

i saw this in one vid, i think it was kage vs vanessa. kage reversaled venessa's mid kick from his jumonji stance, then:
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so shortly, he rolled after reversaling the kick, and then did the dragon punch combo. his last kick didnt hit tho /versus/images/graemlins/frown.gif looked pretty sick

 

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Shang said:

man fuck this cheap ass bullshit from sega. now kage gets 100 point combo from nothing? If someone just sit there and practice until he get the timing down, kage will be the shit of the shit. Fuck this imbalanced bullshit, even if you are a japanese character you get the five star treatment. and fuck you ass-9!

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Heh! I've been playing wolf lately and GE has handed me my ass so many times with Kage now that I have decide that I must pick him up. Kage seems so deadly.


kbcat

 

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Shang said:

man, you suck!

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Tell me about it!

 

I think this is similar to Lau's combo kind of...